North Carolina Green Schools Forum - Member Profile > Profile Page. to give the masculine feeling. Anyhow, had some of the most extreme libido and aggression today. In the rat studies, an extract 10:1 was used, where 50 mg/kg where the dose with the highest testosterone level measured. On the wrist I can pretty quickly feel it - I assume it's more than just the alcohol. In the rat studies, an extract 10:1 was used, where 50 mg/kg where the dose with the highest testosterone level measured. No side-effect whatsoever. As mentioned, I have odd "pains" in various parts of the body that last for a short while, in addition to decreased heart rate (by 10 or so points). My doctor knows less about nutrition than many of us], exercise or supplementation program [including Bulbine natalensis], before taking any medication, or if you suspect you might have a health problem [including kidney failure]. Edited by William Sterog, 05 October 2016 - 03:39 PM. I'm not sure the 750mg tablet are of a comparable quality. Edited by Baten, 04 October 2016 - 05:49 PM. Not touching non-extract whole-herb bulbine natalensis with a ten-foot pole. inner thigh or stomach area, whichever you prefer - but testicle and wrist area should be best. Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Dorm3r, Jun 27, 2017. Someone who weighs 300kg? Has anyone else tried it? After the urine test I've taken a bath and this has slightly removed the coldness in my body but it's definitely still there. As for the adverse reaction I've had, I didn't have it to this degree on the first day and I've went through forum after forum and review after review, study after study and only found multiple references to diarrhea. I'm guessing it will "work" better out-of-the-box. The area just very slightly under my naval and to the left of it (in the side) hurts when I touch it. Bulbine natalensis is an indigenous African botanical that is traditionally used in South African herbal medicine to improve potency in men (as an aphrodisiac). 35% in a period of 2 weeks and remained high for 21 days. When you depend on something to keep your kidneys going.. that's when you should really be checking key blood parameters. It seems to like zinc increase sexual desire and sensitivity of the sexual organ but only mildly. My whole body is also very itchy but this could be chlorine in the water. It's interesting that some people have been taking larger dosages than me for years and not ever had the side effects I had, but they're also using an extract version I believe and not the whole plant like I am. Bulbine has "anti-diabetic" properties, they claim. How much do you weigh? But remember, increased liver enzymes can mean many things, and definetely not always an indicater of a toxic substance. In contrast, creatinine (Creat) decreased slightly in the ProLensis™group (-0.08, -7.4%) compared to no change in the Placebo group (P<0.003). It did have a smell. Seems like an odd coincidence. At 1 cap a day SNS Bulbine is even more of a steal! I applied a larger than usual (but still very small compared to oral dosages) Bulbine solution to my body as usual. I've also had a slice of pizza which could effect urine color but this should only occur many hours after eating, not 5 minutes after. Man, throw this fucking shit to the trash, it is not worth it. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: ImmInst.org. However, this way would be very dangerous to the health that it might cause your death. Bulbine Natalensis has a long history of use in Africa, and initial reports from actual users on the forums etc. Sports-wise I'm having great workouts and feel 'manly', may or may not be in part caused by the bulbine supplementation. Don't add me to the active users list. It's probably irrelevant to the Bulbine and might have to do with the meat I've been eating. Yeah I also read, that in rats, to high a dose of Bulbine Natalensis could have the opposite effect. Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Dorm3r, Jun 27, 2017. The parameter-specific effect of the extract suggests selective toxicity. At least I got to test it. Actually a little bit more but it's almost only a few "streaks" each time, though I felt the "load" every time I had finished. Bulbine Natalensis is a powerful phyto extracts that both raises your testosterone level way past normal and also lowers your estrogen level at the same time. Too much Bulbine could have the opposite effect. I am not sure if this could be because of the alcohol or if it could be only when administrated to the groin area. As no scientific studies have been performed to find the exact dosage to see testosterone-based benefits, it’s tough to say. Click HERE to rent this advertising spot for BRAIN HEALTH to support LongeCity (this will replace the google ad above). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The statements contained on this product have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Yeah I also read, that in rats, to high a dose of Bulbine Natalensis could have the opposite effect. Hard to say if the stem extract is so much better, or if the bulkpowders tablets are just crazy bad. This way I do notice the pro-depression effect as well as the calming effect and, if I apply a lot, it can give an odd feeling of "masculinity," but it's a very bizarre, fake feeling, nothing like the effect that androgens normally give. I’ve noticed a nice libido boost in the past from Bulbine but never really any in gym benefits. I took a cold shower and the coldness felt unusually cold - suggesting that it was indeed hyperthermia. Histological examination revealed slight distortions in the architecture of the liver lobules as well as proximal and convoluted tubules of the kidney. I've begun eating a sweet chocolate cake just after my 5th time urinating and I hope it doesn't mean trouble if my kidneys are failing me. Jul 22, 2017 - Bulbine is a family of succulent like rare species. Effect of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem extract on the functional indices and histology of the liver and kidney of male Wistar rats. It's an old trick. Bulbine Natalensis is a potent African herb that has become a popular addition to supplement stacks catered to those who want to boost libido and testosterone levels. No doubts there.]. Do you read the warnings on the supplements you buy? I'm not native english speaking, so grammer is not great. I'll look into Bulbine Natalensis for Examine I guess; I'm trying to index all existent testosterone boosters at this moment in time and we don't have that one. By accident I discovered that p5p has those effects it has. Individual results from using Product XYZ may vary. Kind of amusing. Bulbine Natalensis is a type of herb from South Eastern and Southern African countries and has been used for years as a form of aphrodisiac and other health benefits. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 24 September 2016 - 06:04 AM. Why continue to take a supplement when you've had a very concerning, adverse reaction? Received 60-count bottle of 5:1 stem extract of bulbine natalensis I ordered. were caused by the supposed "anti-diabetic" effects of Bulbine. The only statements are concerning it not being a replacement for a proper diet and it's not to be used by people under 18. Dorm3r Top Contributor. This is the oddest herb I have ever dealt with. I started taking Bulbine this week, also 750mg tablets(bulkpowders). That will be the real test, I'm under 200lbs and I've had good results from just 350 mg and I always use it for 6 weeks. The initial results suggests that total and free testosterone were both increased by the use of supplementing Afrigetics Botanicals Bulbine PE by about. Edit: the top bulkpowders.co.uk review confirms my previous finding: Massive downside is that they turn your stomach upside down! When I don't move I feel that I have abnormally much energy but as soon as I move (and I'm big, so I can't take much) it's back to normal in terms of poor endurance. I've seen several transdermal Bulbine kits sold for application to testicle area, I just don't want to waste more money on trying different varieties. Haven't been dosing with the bulbine for some days now though. I take about two per day. Bulbine Natalensis – independent hormone tests by Anthony Roberts We know that Bulbine Natalensis worked for me. Have to say, this is the real thing. But unlike with oral administration this is only once or twice or so, as opposed to throughout the day. Just a heads up. DAA works in a very different way - DAA raises testosterone via increasing Luteinizing Hormone, which in term stimulates your testes into producing more natural testosterone. To make the creme more effective, consider combining it with stuff like zinc, ginger and localized UV-radiation. site states the following: "The initial results suggests that total and free testosterone were both increased by the use of supplementing Afrigetics Botanicals Bulbine PE by about 35% in a period of 2 weeks and remained high for 21 days. Bulbine Natalensis. Bulbine Natalensis is a South African shrub that has been used in traditional medicine to treat a variety of conditions including diabetes and convulsions. I'll post back once those arrive (shipped from Africa, will undoubtedly take some time). Would be great if you could describe in detail if theres anything to describe, and would also be great if you could give updates after a while as to whether its still working. When I apply it to my testicle area it feels like having used a dht cream in that I can achieve a mild "erection" feeling. The activities of serum ALP, GGT, ALT, and AST also increased throughout the experimental period. I’ve taken the liberty of dividing it up into sections to make it easier to find what you need. It appears to both be slightly calming (is claimed to be anticonvulsive) yet also inducing depressive thinking. After using melatonin for a while I had a reduced libido, but after starting Bulbine it is exactly as if I have been taking a very expensive zinc supplement. It has also been shown to exhibit potent aphrodisiac qualities. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. What specifically are you feeling? I'm willing to give the herb one last shot with the extract version (dosage is 350mg per cap which seems significantly lower too, compared to the 750mg tablets of which the directions even say to take 3 of these tablets, are they insane?). Edited by Baten, 24 September 2016 - 09:09 AM. I've never heard of someone running over 700mg with any more success than 700mg. But I was definitely scared, especially if the kidneys can be permanently damaged. 5 minutes again and it was the same with the urine. It has great influence on cognition and sexuality, and currently it is used as a testosterone booster. But because what little you absorb will completely bypass the liver. This is not recommended for shared computers. Animal studies show that it may increase testosterone, but only at specific doses - too high doses can have a negative impact on long-term health. Maybe I didn't explain it well. I have adverse effects from only 1 a day and I weigh more than most people. None of that honestly. Seem to solve all of the discomfort-issues, at least in my case. When applied transermally (and it's really, really poorly done because I don't have access to anything but alcohol and store bought creams) I experience more or less the same as above. Literally turned my arse to water 2 days in and it's been the same since, had to stop taking them for this reason, can't live the touch and go toilet lifestyle any longer ha. Kind of stupid of BP to sell it for so much (it's not inexpensive), and it's not even an extract. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 05 October 2016 - 02:58 PM. I read about its liver and kidney toxicity but that seems to be disputed by its users who reference safety studies that discard the notion of toxicity higher than placebo. I think the whole plant is just indigestible, at least for some. Remember me Effect of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem extract on the functional indices and histology of the liver and kidney of male Wistar rats.Afolayan AJ1, Yakubu MT. And ask your doc about p5p. [Alright, I'll grant you that. A marker in myself for androgenicity is waking up with my hands in my underwear. Because of the intestine-thing, I'm quitting supplementation for the time being for sure. Will update if I can confirm it is indeed from the bulbine. Please consult with a health care professional before starting any diet [again, complete rubbish. The urine color was for the first time urinating today: dark yellow. 11 studies in Pubmed, shouldn't take long. Histological examination revealed slight distortions in the architecture of the liver lobules as well as proximal and convoluted tubules of the kidney. I don't think I'll bother making another order just to try it. Supplement Forums; Supplements; Bulbine Natalensis testosterone booster. But I always drink the same amount of water more or less, so having darker urine is pretty out of the ordinary. So far I have a lot of intestinal distress, all through the week. In a manner similar to a steroid cycle..... ok... but if you are going to use something that has negative effects/sides similar to the real thing... why not just straight jump in the water head first ? I've begun to feel some weird pains in my feet and lower legs as well as my hands and wrist but these are mild and quickly subside and reappear. I am also using Bulkpowders. The information provided on this pamphlet is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional, or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. and according to http://www.lifeexten...Disease/Page-01 p5p may be effective in preventing some kidney issues/failure/damage. As for p5p, the linked LE article details how p5p is protective against various forms of damage to the kidneys so it's smart to be taking it. But it if contains a diuretic then it's no surprise. But how about other people? 20 minutes after eating I began to experience strong heat feelings in my whole body accompanied by dizziness and weakness. You must log in or register to reply here. Add to that the intestinal pain and I know I'm never giving these tablets a go again... Maybe you could do like me and add 3 crushed tablets to a small (the smaller the better) glass jar with ethanol in it. Right now I've urinated for the 5th time and immediately feel a need to do so again. Experiment with probiotics and digestive enzymes is a success. I will decide the dosing for the upcoming 8 week period. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 24 September 2016 - 09:22 AM. Wasn't it the opposite, that I took 2x750mg first day and yesterday only 1x750mg? [3] This herb has been used in traditional medicine as a natural aphrodisiac, and has had numerous studies conducted on it. I know at least that it's not so tough on the liver or kidneys as oral anabolics are and can be. Even if the supplier has neglected to label it with the proper warning, still be cautious! My forehead and are around ears are still burning hot, very hot but I don't have any way to measure the temperature. . After the 3rd time urinating I still feel a noticeable urge to urinate, this Bulbine surely has some diuretic effect. Enjoy! But continuing on...]. Bulbine Natalensis und die Bedeutung der natürlichen Testosteronproduktion. This is the third day and I have not taken it today. Does weight even matter when it comes to the renal and hepatic toxicity of a substance? I guess it's like alpha lipoic acid which also makes me feel terrible if I consume it with sugar. 35% increase, or 10% increase, is not a lot. I wake up slightly horny, same I do if I take zinc. If this is for what I think it's for    (which it most certainly is) you best stick to the likes of ginger and boron. I do feel I have more energy now (not the chocolate cake) but it's in a weird way. New Men All Natural Bulbine Natalensis 10:1 Liquid Extract Testosterone Booster This state of the art new formula incorporates the most recent technology in boosting your testosterone levels with organic herb extracts that are designed to currently be stronger than ever before. The extract did not significantly (P < .05) alter the total protein, sodium, potassium, chloride, calcium, magnesium, uric acid, and creatinine levels in the serum of rats. The parameter-specific effect of the extract suggests selective toxicity. 5 minutes later I urinated again and it was medium dark yellow color. But I strongly encourage you to stop the oral bulbine immediately. This is not recommended for shared computers, Sign in anonymously The effects of aqueous extract of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem at 25, 50, and 100 mg/kg of body weight for 14 days on the functional indices of liver and kidney as well as the histology of the rat organs were evaluated. I agree the testicular ointment is a bright idea, not because it will produce extreme gains. How Much Bulbine Natalensis to Take to See Results? Lean gains from Bulbine Natalensis or any other supplements? Bulbine natalensis is a plant indigenous to South Africa that has been used in traditional remedies for a wide variety of purposes. The alterations produced in some of the functional indices as well as in the hepatorenal architecture may adversely affect the normal hepatic and renal functions. Perfectly normal digestion, no stomach, intestinal, kidney or any other "weird" discomfort from taking these. Interestingly, I do think the transdermal did produce a weak diuretic effect but I'm not sure. It's also diuretic and hard on the kidneys, I would really steer away from large doses. This is an indication that the extract is not completely "safe" as an oral remedy. For WHO? 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